А смысл?
Мне тут наш второй админ скинула интересную штуку. Вус в котором он вроде как говорил про свой разрыв с Каорин.
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What's up Smap, 22 Oct 1999
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?Takuya san, Konnichiwa. What i am writing is a very dase matter, you have broken up with your girlfriend? } this is sugoii right! Normally people won't write these kind of matters out right? (staff laughs) Or should i say, maybe people may write this, but normally people won't answer this right?
Then he starts talking about a lot of things that have been in trend....he cites baseball as one of them. Hawks's coach's name is Hoshino, the other team's coach is Ou. and he thinks it will be hot battle between the two. and he starts his usual talk again.
[ (echo) (in a tone of a spoilt girl/ pouting) Hoshino... ( i want...) Ou... Hoshino... Ou... (laughs as he says this) [Ou!] [Hoshino!] [Ou! Ou!] (happily) this kind of feeling, this kind of feeling.
En,. so i think it will be a hot battle between them? But if i really say it like this, to baseball fans...once i get out of Tokyo FM, i will be beaten to death right? (laughs)
He then starts saying how this program has no restrictions at all....and that there is and will be no lying on this program.
He then starts addressing the fax.
This girl is from Shibaya, called Uehara. Her pen name is "Tolerating Loneliness".
[Takuya san, Konnichiwa}
eh, i should reply [Konnichiwa]
[i am writing something very dase, you have broken up with your girlfriend? i read it in a magazine. Why did i want to write about such a thing, actually i have just broken up with my boyfriend of 7 years, so i wrote this. i started going out with him when we were in Secondary 3, when we were 15 years old. ] En, 15 years old, that's sugoii ne.
[After we graduated from high school, i entered university, now i'm my fourth year. He started working after he graduated from high school. The reason for the break up is very simple, i have been dumped.]
.........En..
?It seems like, there is a girl who is more important to him than I. Frankly when i first heard it from his mouth, i really can't believe it. It's only just last year that he said he wants to marry me, but because i am still a student, so we made a promise that we will marry once i graduated........Now when i think back, when we were in the same schools, we had many things to talk about because we had common topics. But, after i became a university student, after he started working, our common topics decreased, so we try to build up memories during the holidays.......but he still chose the other girl. it seemed like it's his colleague. ]
En............
?Now i erased him keitai number and home number from my keitai, of course i still could not forget him. Forgetting it, once i am free, i will think of him. 22 years old already, i still have a lot of things to worry about. His feeling, my feelings now, the time that i had always kept aside for him - what should i do with it? i have no clue regarding the method to start a new relationship...... the 7 years that i spent with him are really long ne.......?
This is "Tolerating Loneliness!" En...
Just reading this fax caused me spend the energy to film a drama! (sound of rearranging his chair) Ah.........energy already all spent... (Fukushima laughs)... this is quite taboo! Quite taboo for me right now!
Ah ... yes...Ms "tolerating loneliness'... this...is difficult ne... Males and females...i think everyone, (laughs) who listens to this program knows......... I, as i am doing this kind of work...Smap or acting some dramas etc...as i am being called [Kimutaku] by everyone...during all these....en, i have always been in love! En.
Since 17 years old...en...that is...before the actual debut... before debut! En, before [We are Smap!] (starts singing Can't Stop- Loving!) before this... we are together already... (sound of pen tapping)..before debut. (sound of rustling paper) That is juniors... Smap also exists then... so it's before debut, before the release of cd that kind of thing...before all this.
En, We are together already. (sound of rearranging chair and tapping pen )
En, normally, people will say [it is hard to cope with studies and everything else] or [ cope with this and that is very tough] this kind of things? But....i feel that......if you feel this way......you yourself........will feel very exhausted isn't it? En.......if you want to 'cope' , coping is very forced behaviour, so.......of course that.......I........that right in the beginning? When we started going out, have always been like that.........that.......during work i am very happy... .na... love...though it is that..........? Going out with girls?......... this is happily done also.. so at that point of time i have never thought of the two opposing sides this kind of thing.
On the other hand, it is "work as opposed to studies"? En... that is when i was in high school. That was really tough. En. So, if i want to enjoy the time spent in school ,that is very time consuming. Because it's a fixed time table, everyone is very busy, everyone is doing all sorts of work. I got enrolled in this half-way. So... for that part, i had a tough time. So saying love and work ...as two opposing sides?...saying 2 opposing sides... never thought of that before. That... this kind of topic.... after this.... song ok? Title is , if you haven't gotten over it, it's a bit that right? Mariah's new song. Mariah Carey's Heartbreaker.
Ok! What you just heard is Mariah's new song.
Mariah's also single now, is this talking abt Mariah herself? Mariah Carey's Heartbreaker.
Eh... So... like this... today a bit... seriously...talking......
En, en, en, en! (tapping pen) after that ne? My senpais are Hikaru Genji..........ne! and Shounentai? all senpais. En, and us? We hardly dance for Shounentai. For example, Hikaru Genji or Shounen Ninja......etc sometimes we are background dancers for them in staduims. Sometimes we will receive letters, gifts etc from girls..........but everyone will not say it out.........on the surface........[I am going out with a girl] or [i am what and what with this girl]. We won't say whom we are with, perhaps we will say it in private with our teammates. Of course in "Duet" or "Myojo" or "Potato" or "Best One", and "Wink Up" etc........ we won't reply (this kind of questions) in those magazine interviews!
When's there a Valentine Day's special, wearing a white sweater, posing with chocolates, this kind of photo shoots, we won't say [i did it with so-and-so at which place] (laughs). It's not spoken, of course being in love is also not spoken of.
So, at first, i also thought. "What's this.......this kind of atmosphere" and always felt that...........that.........ne? When i was with my ex-girlfriend, when we first met, that............didn't consider this kind of things at that time. That "two opposing sides", so i can say this [Ah, yes i am going out someone] [of course i have a girlfriend!] i can say things like that.
So, in the beginning... i... (starts tapping the pen from this point)...... I still can remember.......it was a live broadcast?........at Asahi live radio program site....i said it..... [(imitating the female broadcaster's voice) Kimura san, do you have? anyone you would like to go out with?] At that time, i thought "ah.......here it comes"..... so i replied [No, there is someone. ... if there isn't anyone isn't it very dase?] i think i answered something along this line.
After that, i was scolded by our ultra manager [Why did you say that?] , i still remembered... really. But at that time i did not say anything wrong, i did not do anything wrong... .but really... it's that... that "image" objective? ... or should i say it's the objective of the jimusho? Considering the image factor, perhaps what i said was not acceptable, not suitable. .. but to myself... at that time, i felt " i did not say anything wrong right"...
Na, even though she said [why did you say it]... but... that... now? En, i told the ultra manager [No, i did not do anything wrong, what does it matter ?] I still remembered that was how i said it. (sniffs) En... .After that... yappari... so it's still 'very tough'... that's how i felt... so , 2 opposing side... when i was with that person..........or going to the actual site of work... (voice hoarse)... the actual situation with that person? The times together or when we were on the phone... it's totally 2 different matters right. So i have thought about the compatibility of these 2. The only sudden thing, the incompatible part is, when i felt "so troublesome" was still.......when i went shopping with girls.... or wants to catch a movie... go somewhere....at these times, the other party, is just someone i like... just like that... but just because I am on television or in magazines... or in dramas... so when i walk on the street.... yappari i'm still like that... for example a female star or something... that kind of people... for example when you are at somewhere buying something, people will [Ah... that person... ah ......is here] that kind of feeling! Their eyes will follow you! I think that's normal... na... when i am being watched by others... the other party.... i, i do not know the people around me, but they all know me.
During all these... for example... when i was shopping with the girl i liked.... people saying [Ah, it's Kimura Takuya!] this kind of feeling... (a bit depressed) will feel it's really troublesome... just like that i think?... not to that extend where it can't co-exist... (sucks in deep breath) just felt that "i'm doing this kind of job, so what if i'm with this girl?" Moreover, it's already.... on the surface........the important part is those photos on the tabloids, "clicking clicking" as you are being photographed... will... make it even more obvious. A bit [Ah, it's here?] or ......[Ah ha] that kind of feeling... a bit... that... when the shutter is being pressed... really makes me angry.
Of course... that... that kind of place? Timing and venue... all properly considered. Clothes or ... whatever... na.... i have properly considered that! When i go Harajuku, in order not to stand out, not to... that... don't dress too nicely, to blend into the whole scene.... so now, my dressing has became like that. So... really ne... I... actually am nothing great. I really think so, what Kimutaku hair, people always say this right? I really... didn't do anything mah... To blend into the whole scene... sou... just that... feel that cutting my hair is troublesome, so i kept it long.......at that time.
Long hair... earlier than i... had... a lot of people had already it it long ago. At Shibuya, Harajuku, Roppongi.....This's not a song, song title... really have mah......
So this is how i became what i am now.
En, anyway, before we know how to find a new love... i think that this feeling is not bad, you have friends by your side right? Please listen to Smap's Best Friend.
Therefore ne........but in the end..........still need to continue.....(sniffs)....still........work? Need to..........turned out like that.........so........that............there're tabloids..........this pen name "Tolerating Loneliness" ne.....(sniffs) have already read the magazines i think, even so...........the person who has spent a long time with me............to me........career...........for example.........the me on television........en.........how do i put it? The me who is in female magazines or in fashion magazines...........she don't see me like that..........that.........she sees me as the person right in front of her, treats me as that..... that is the biggest reason , en... .so... i like her. (taps the pen) en.
So to look it this way! We also do not have much common topics........at that time... that... .it's not that i want to rebutt what "Tolerating Loneliness" has said, but in my case, it's' not about the common topics that you have, rather it's about wanting to go to a place together and so you went . Just like that... .want to watch a movie together hence you went.......At that time, she said [want to go xxx and buy clothes] so we went. So... ne? It's not like Peko and Pako like that, always carrying a camera, wherever you go you would just stretch out your hand and take pics of your faces sticking close to each other.
So, i would not create memories just for the sake of creating memories.... be together so that we can take photos and stick it in the photo albums. I think doing it that way is the most painful. Because.... after it turned out like that... all those photos.... can go away smoothly... if it can go away smoothly......that's perfectly alright. if not, those places that had both parties's shadows left behind.... will also not have all these memories... it will only make you more lonely.
Забавное чтиво. Надо бы найти этот эфир.
What's up Smap, 22 Oct 1999
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?Takuya san, Konnichiwa. What i am writing is a very dase matter, you have broken up with your girlfriend? } this is sugoii right! Normally people won't write these kind of matters out right? (staff laughs) Or should i say, maybe people may write this, but normally people won't answer this right?
Then he starts talking about a lot of things that have been in trend....he cites baseball as one of them. Hawks's coach's name is Hoshino, the other team's coach is Ou. and he thinks it will be hot battle between the two. and he starts his usual talk again.
[ (echo) (in a tone of a spoilt girl/ pouting) Hoshino... ( i want...) Ou... Hoshino... Ou... (laughs as he says this) [Ou!] [Hoshino!] [Ou! Ou!] (happily) this kind of feeling, this kind of feeling.
En,. so i think it will be a hot battle between them? But if i really say it like this, to baseball fans...once i get out of Tokyo FM, i will be beaten to death right? (laughs)
He then starts saying how this program has no restrictions at all....and that there is and will be no lying on this program.
He then starts addressing the fax.
This girl is from Shibaya, called Uehara. Her pen name is "Tolerating Loneliness".
[Takuya san, Konnichiwa}
eh, i should reply [Konnichiwa]
[i am writing something very dase, you have broken up with your girlfriend? i read it in a magazine. Why did i want to write about such a thing, actually i have just broken up with my boyfriend of 7 years, so i wrote this. i started going out with him when we were in Secondary 3, when we were 15 years old. ] En, 15 years old, that's sugoii ne.
[After we graduated from high school, i entered university, now i'm my fourth year. He started working after he graduated from high school. The reason for the break up is very simple, i have been dumped.]
.........En..
?It seems like, there is a girl who is more important to him than I. Frankly when i first heard it from his mouth, i really can't believe it. It's only just last year that he said he wants to marry me, but because i am still a student, so we made a promise that we will marry once i graduated........Now when i think back, when we were in the same schools, we had many things to talk about because we had common topics. But, after i became a university student, after he started working, our common topics decreased, so we try to build up memories during the holidays.......but he still chose the other girl. it seemed like it's his colleague. ]
En............
?Now i erased him keitai number and home number from my keitai, of course i still could not forget him. Forgetting it, once i am free, i will think of him. 22 years old already, i still have a lot of things to worry about. His feeling, my feelings now, the time that i had always kept aside for him - what should i do with it? i have no clue regarding the method to start a new relationship...... the 7 years that i spent with him are really long ne.......?
This is "Tolerating Loneliness!" En...
Just reading this fax caused me spend the energy to film a drama! (sound of rearranging his chair) Ah.........energy already all spent... (Fukushima laughs)... this is quite taboo! Quite taboo for me right now!
Ah ... yes...Ms "tolerating loneliness'... this...is difficult ne... Males and females...i think everyone, (laughs) who listens to this program knows......... I, as i am doing this kind of work...Smap or acting some dramas etc...as i am being called [Kimutaku] by everyone...during all these....en, i have always been in love! En.
Since 17 years old...en...that is...before the actual debut... before debut! En, before [We are Smap!] (starts singing Can't Stop- Loving!) before this... we are together already... (sound of pen tapping)..before debut. (sound of rustling paper) That is juniors... Smap also exists then... so it's before debut, before the release of cd that kind of thing...before all this.
En, We are together already. (sound of rearranging chair and tapping pen )
En, normally, people will say [it is hard to cope with studies and everything else] or [ cope with this and that is very tough] this kind of things? But....i feel that......if you feel this way......you yourself........will feel very exhausted isn't it? En.......if you want to 'cope' , coping is very forced behaviour, so.......of course that.......I........that right in the beginning? When we started going out, have always been like that.........that.......during work i am very happy... .na... love...though it is that..........? Going out with girls?......... this is happily done also.. so at that point of time i have never thought of the two opposing sides this kind of thing.
On the other hand, it is "work as opposed to studies"? En... that is when i was in high school. That was really tough. En. So, if i want to enjoy the time spent in school ,that is very time consuming. Because it's a fixed time table, everyone is very busy, everyone is doing all sorts of work. I got enrolled in this half-way. So... for that part, i had a tough time. So saying love and work ...as two opposing sides?...saying 2 opposing sides... never thought of that before. That... this kind of topic.... after this.... song ok? Title is , if you haven't gotten over it, it's a bit that right? Mariah's new song. Mariah Carey's Heartbreaker.
Ok! What you just heard is Mariah's new song.
Mariah's also single now, is this talking abt Mariah herself? Mariah Carey's Heartbreaker.
Eh... So... like this... today a bit... seriously...talking......
En, en, en, en! (tapping pen) after that ne? My senpais are Hikaru Genji..........ne! and Shounentai? all senpais. En, and us? We hardly dance for Shounentai. For example, Hikaru Genji or Shounen Ninja......etc sometimes we are background dancers for them in staduims. Sometimes we will receive letters, gifts etc from girls..........but everyone will not say it out.........on the surface........[I am going out with a girl] or [i am what and what with this girl]. We won't say whom we are with, perhaps we will say it in private with our teammates. Of course in "Duet" or "Myojo" or "Potato" or "Best One", and "Wink Up" etc........ we won't reply (this kind of questions) in those magazine interviews!
When's there a Valentine Day's special, wearing a white sweater, posing with chocolates, this kind of photo shoots, we won't say [i did it with so-and-so at which place] (laughs). It's not spoken, of course being in love is also not spoken of.
So, at first, i also thought. "What's this.......this kind of atmosphere" and always felt that...........that.........ne? When i was with my ex-girlfriend, when we first met, that............didn't consider this kind of things at that time. That "two opposing sides", so i can say this [Ah, yes i am going out someone] [of course i have a girlfriend!] i can say things like that.
So, in the beginning... i... (starts tapping the pen from this point)...... I still can remember.......it was a live broadcast?........at Asahi live radio program site....i said it..... [(imitating the female broadcaster's voice) Kimura san, do you have? anyone you would like to go out with?] At that time, i thought "ah.......here it comes"..... so i replied [No, there is someone. ... if there isn't anyone isn't it very dase?] i think i answered something along this line.
After that, i was scolded by our ultra manager [Why did you say that?] , i still remembered... really. But at that time i did not say anything wrong, i did not do anything wrong... .but really... it's that... that "image" objective? ... or should i say it's the objective of the jimusho? Considering the image factor, perhaps what i said was not acceptable, not suitable. .. but to myself... at that time, i felt " i did not say anything wrong right"...
Na, even though she said [why did you say it]... but... that... now? En, i told the ultra manager [No, i did not do anything wrong, what does it matter ?] I still remembered that was how i said it. (sniffs) En... .After that... yappari... so it's still 'very tough'... that's how i felt... so , 2 opposing side... when i was with that person..........or going to the actual site of work... (voice hoarse)... the actual situation with that person? The times together or when we were on the phone... it's totally 2 different matters right. So i have thought about the compatibility of these 2. The only sudden thing, the incompatible part is, when i felt "so troublesome" was still.......when i went shopping with girls.... or wants to catch a movie... go somewhere....at these times, the other party, is just someone i like... just like that... but just because I am on television or in magazines... or in dramas... so when i walk on the street.... yappari i'm still like that... for example a female star or something... that kind of people... for example when you are at somewhere buying something, people will [Ah... that person... ah ......is here] that kind of feeling! Their eyes will follow you! I think that's normal... na... when i am being watched by others... the other party.... i, i do not know the people around me, but they all know me.
During all these... for example... when i was shopping with the girl i liked.... people saying [Ah, it's Kimura Takuya!] this kind of feeling... (a bit depressed) will feel it's really troublesome... just like that i think?... not to that extend where it can't co-exist... (sucks in deep breath) just felt that "i'm doing this kind of job, so what if i'm with this girl?" Moreover, it's already.... on the surface........the important part is those photos on the tabloids, "clicking clicking" as you are being photographed... will... make it even more obvious. A bit [Ah, it's here?] or ......[Ah ha] that kind of feeling... a bit... that... when the shutter is being pressed... really makes me angry.
Of course... that... that kind of place? Timing and venue... all properly considered. Clothes or ... whatever... na.... i have properly considered that! When i go Harajuku, in order not to stand out, not to... that... don't dress too nicely, to blend into the whole scene.... so now, my dressing has became like that. So... really ne... I... actually am nothing great. I really think so, what Kimutaku hair, people always say this right? I really... didn't do anything mah... To blend into the whole scene... sou... just that... feel that cutting my hair is troublesome, so i kept it long.......at that time.
Long hair... earlier than i... had... a lot of people had already it it long ago. At Shibuya, Harajuku, Roppongi.....This's not a song, song title... really have mah......
So this is how i became what i am now.
En, anyway, before we know how to find a new love... i think that this feeling is not bad, you have friends by your side right? Please listen to Smap's Best Friend.
Therefore ne........but in the end..........still need to continue.....(sniffs)....still........work? Need to..........turned out like that.........so........that............there're tabloids..........this pen name "Tolerating Loneliness" ne.....(sniffs) have already read the magazines i think, even so...........the person who has spent a long time with me............to me........career...........for example.........the me on television........en.........how do i put it? The me who is in female magazines or in fashion magazines...........she don't see me like that..........that.........she sees me as the person right in front of her, treats me as that..... that is the biggest reason , en... .so... i like her. (taps the pen) en.
So to look it this way! We also do not have much common topics........at that time... that... .it's not that i want to rebutt what "Tolerating Loneliness" has said, but in my case, it's' not about the common topics that you have, rather it's about wanting to go to a place together and so you went . Just like that... .want to watch a movie together hence you went.......At that time, she said [want to go xxx and buy clothes] so we went. So... ne? It's not like Peko and Pako like that, always carrying a camera, wherever you go you would just stretch out your hand and take pics of your faces sticking close to each other.
So, i would not create memories just for the sake of creating memories.... be together so that we can take photos and stick it in the photo albums. I think doing it that way is the most painful. Because.... after it turned out like that... all those photos.... can go away smoothly... if it can go away smoothly......that's perfectly alright. if not, those places that had both parties's shadows left behind.... will also not have all these memories... it will only make you more lonely.
На больную голову мне как-то трудно в текст вникнуть вот вообще. Попробую потом еще перечитать.
Мм я помню несколько папафоток с Каорин, но их реально было немного.
но он об этом открыто в эссе писал, о том, как строит отношения
Папафотки я тоже насобирала и все в дайри постила. С десяток наберется, но у меня такое ощущение, что на некоторых фото лица девушек не совпадают. Есть две фотки, где девушка хорошенькая, а на остальных страшноватая. А та, где они с Кимом под свадебным колокольчиком - если он папарацци так ненавидел и морды им бил, то почему там они мирно позировали? Кстати, еще эта фраза, что у них было мало общих тем, вообще звучит убийственно.
Ага, про общие темы - что, кроме как сходить куданибудь и заняться любовью, больше ничего их не связывало?
два овоща?)) и сравнить, как он с Шизукой сразу оттягиваться начал - прям небо и земля. овощная жизнь явно не для него. тогда зачем он 9 лет с этой девушкой жил? почему-то мне кажется, у него за эти годы много других было, а вывеской стала Каорин.
+1 это и мое мнение